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	<title>Comments on: Dionysus &#8211; A Faux Marble Bust in a Paper Mache Frame</title>
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		<title>By: Blakeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonni, the chimpanzee is amazing - and thank you for the dtailled information regarding its creation - and painting! I love the life-like look of the eyes. I&#039;m nervous to try something that big, but who knows? Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

For your felted hats - I think paper mache hat stands would be a *fabulous* idea. They would definitely stand out from the run of the mill display stands you see everywhere. And in addition to getting people to check out your hats I am positive it would have the other crafters checking out the stands (and maybe asking could you make them one!) I think a lot of accessory artisans are looking for &quot;something different&quot;.

Incidentally, I don&#039;t know if you are familiar with her work, but Gemma Taccogna was a gifted paper mache artist who also created busts - a link to some info about her (and her creations) can be found here: http://www.papiermache.co.uk/articles/gemma-taccogna/2/ (this is page 2 of the article which has more info about her process). 

Hope you find it interesting and good luck with the display stands - thank you for all the info you provide on your site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonni, the chimpanzee is amazing &#8211; and thank you for the dtailled information regarding its creation &#8211; and painting! I love the life-like look of the eyes. I&#8217;m nervous to try something that big, but who knows? Nothing ventured, nothing gained!</p>
<p>For your felted hats &#8211; I think paper mache hat stands would be a *fabulous* idea. They would definitely stand out from the run of the mill display stands you see everywhere. And in addition to getting people to check out your hats I am positive it would have the other crafters checking out the stands (and maybe asking could you make them one!) I think a lot of accessory artisans are looking for &#8220;something different&#8221;.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I don&#8217;t know if you are familiar with her work, but Gemma Taccogna was a gifted paper mache artist who also created busts &#8211; a link to some info about her (and her creations) can be found here: <a href="http://www.papiermache.co.uk/articles/gemma-taccogna/2/">http://www.papiermache.co.uk/articles/gemma-taccogna/2/</a> (this is page 2 of the article which has more info about her process). </p>
<p>Hope you find it interesting and good luck with the display stands &#8211; thank you for all the info you provide on your site!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually gave me an idea - I&#039;ve been trying to think of some useful product that I could make, and I&#039;ve been considering felted hats. Hat stands modeled in paper mache would catch people&#039;s attention at a fair, wouldn&#039;t they? I sold at art fairs for years, and I discovered that people are almost &lt;em&gt;forced&lt;/em&gt; to look at a display if they see eyes looking back. That should also be true for a jewelry display. If a bust was weighted so it doesn&#039;t fall over, it could still be light enough to pack easily when the fair is over. 

And that reminds me that you might want to look at the posts I made about the chimpanzee bust I made - the techniques would work as well for a human face. The first experiment in &lt;a href=&quot;http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay/paper-mache-clay-experiment&quot;&gt;making a hollow chimpanzee bust is here&lt;/a&gt;. Once I knew the technique worked, I made another one, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-tutorial/paper-mache-chimp&quot;&gt;final chimpanzee is here&lt;/a&gt;. It was much easier than the Dionysus wall hanging, by far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually gave me an idea &#8211; I&#8217;ve been trying to think of some useful product that I could make, and I&#8217;ve been considering felted hats. Hat stands modeled in paper mache would catch people&#8217;s attention at a fair, wouldn&#8217;t they? I sold at art fairs for years, and I discovered that people are almost <em>forced</em> to look at a display if they see eyes looking back. That should also be true for a jewelry display. If a bust was weighted so it doesn&#8217;t fall over, it could still be light enough to pack easily when the fair is over. </p>
<p>And that reminds me that you might want to look at the posts I made about the chimpanzee bust I made &#8211; the techniques would work as well for a human face. The first experiment in <a href="http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay/paper-mache-clay-experiment">making a hollow chimpanzee bust is here</a>. Once I knew the technique worked, I made another one, and the <a href="http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-tutorial/paper-mache-chimp">final chimpanzee is here</a>. It was much easier than the Dionysus wall hanging, by far.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! very interesting and informative, it is really nice work of art, thanks for sharing this information keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! very interesting and informative, it is really nice work of art, thanks for sharing this information keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Blakeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing back, and for your wonderful tutorials, including the mold making ones. If you ever decide to do another, Artemis would be lovely - I am very impressed by your sculpting abilities with the Dionysus bust. It really does have the look of  ancient carved stone.

I&#039;m getting ahead of myself, anyway - I will be starting small, having no paper mache or even sculpting experience. The idea was just so exciting. I will be picking up some Elmer&#039;s and boiled linseed oil this weekend  - I can&#039;t wait to give paper mache a try!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing back, and for your wonderful tutorials, including the mold making ones. If you ever decide to do another, Artemis would be lovely &#8211; I am very impressed by your sculpting abilities with the Dionysus bust. It really does have the look of  ancient carved stone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting ahead of myself, anyway &#8211; I will be starting small, having no paper mache or even sculpting experience. The idea was just so exciting. I will be picking up some Elmer&#8217;s and boiled linseed oil this weekend  &#8211; I can&#8217;t wait to give paper mache a try!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tutorial would be rather difficult for this project, I&#039;m afraid. I did it the hard way - I made a clay model of the bust, created a plaster cast, then used pourable doll composition for the bust. The only paper mache on the piece is the frame and background. 

If I did this today I&#039;d probably do the entire piece in clay, including the frame, make a silicone mold, and then use the techniques I used for my &lt;a href=&quot;http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-tutorial/paper-mache-cougar-and-instant-paper-mache-recipe&quot;&gt;recent cougar and hippo masks&lt;/a&gt; to create a thin plaster and paper pulp shell. 

In other words, if I did this over I probably wouldn&#039;t use any paper mache at all, and I definitely wouldn&#039;t use the doll composition, which is too slick and difficult to paint. You&#039;re giving me some ideas, though - this piece is actually one of my favorites, but the method I used to create it was so tedious that I never made another one to display with it. Maybe I should use the ideas I just gave you and go back and make another one - &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis&quot;&gt;Artemis&lt;/a&gt;, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tutorial would be rather difficult for this project, I&#8217;m afraid. I did it the hard way &#8211; I made a clay model of the bust, created a plaster cast, then used pourable doll composition for the bust. The only paper mache on the piece is the frame and background. </p>
<p>If I did this today I&#8217;d probably do the entire piece in clay, including the frame, make a silicone mold, and then use the techniques I used for my <a href="http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-tutorial/paper-mache-cougar-and-instant-paper-mache-recipe">recent cougar and hippo masks</a> to create a thin plaster and paper pulp shell. </p>
<p>In other words, if I did this over I probably wouldn&#8217;t use any paper mache at all, and I definitely wouldn&#8217;t use the doll composition, which is too slick and difficult to paint. You&#8217;re giving me some ideas, though &#8211; this piece is actually one of my favorites, but the method I used to create it was so tedious that I never made another one to display with it. Maybe I should use the ideas I just gave you and go back and make another one &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis">Artemis</a>, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Blakeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know - there seem to be clump of grapes in his hair, signifying his status as the god of wine. Also the medallion holding up the drape around his neck seems to be decorated with a panther - I read that Dionysus was also associated with panthers or leopards.

I would love a full tutorial on this - I&#039;ve been wanting to buy a small Grecian bust for jewelry displays at craft fairs - but even the faux ones are prohibitively expensive - I think there might be a way to prop this up on an easel, and drill holes in the frame for a necklace to drape - or, possibly complete a front and back to the bust (if I can get it to stand on it&#039;s own).

Thank you for all the great information you have provided on your site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know &#8211; there seem to be clump of grapes in his hair, signifying his status as the god of wine. Also the medallion holding up the drape around his neck seems to be decorated with a panther &#8211; I read that Dionysus was also associated with panthers or leopards.</p>
<p>I would love a full tutorial on this &#8211; I&#8217;ve been wanting to buy a small Grecian bust for jewelry displays at craft fairs &#8211; but even the faux ones are prohibitively expensive &#8211; I think there might be a way to prop this up on an easel, and drill holes in the frame for a necklace to drape &#8211; or, possibly complete a front and back to the bust (if I can get it to stand on it&#8217;s own).</p>
<p>Thank you for all the great information you have provided on your site!</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive work of art.  Who would have known that the materials for the frame is  made of paper. How I wish I could do something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive work of art.  Who would have known that the materials for the frame is  made of paper. How I wish I could do something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paint right on the clay at times. The gesso gives a nice smooth finish, but sometimes I prefer to leave it off. Experiment, and see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paint right on the clay at times. The gesso gives a nice smooth finish, but sometimes I prefer to leave it off. Experiment, and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Gennarella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Gennarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question - is it necessary to prime with gesso first - then paint any sculpture made with Jonni&#039;s great recipe?  I primed my first project  - but I was thinking it might be nice to paint directly on the sculpture.  I know it sometimes depends on what paint is used but I usually use a good acrylic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question &#8211; is it necessary to prime with gesso first &#8211; then paint any sculpture made with Jonni&#8217;s great recipe?  I primed my first project  &#8211; but I was thinking it might be nice to paint directly on the sculpture.  I know it sometimes depends on what paint is used but I usually use a good acrylic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dee. What a great project! I hope you show us how they turn out.

I recommend using the crumpled paper and masking tape for armatures, instead of chicken wire. It takes a lot of effort to get the wire in the shape you want, but shaping the paper is easy. To make sure your paper mache people will stand up, you might want to tape their feet to a cardboard base, at least until the first layer of paper mache is dry. You might also want to consider using the Super Sculpey to form the features of the face, then add a layer of paper and paste, and dry the face under a hot lamp. (Not too close - you don&#039;t want to burn down your house!) This will cook the Sculpey so you won&#039;t have to remove it. You would need to make the features exaggerated so the details don&#039;t get lost when the paper is added and the paint applied.

Be sure to let us know how your project turns out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dee. What a great project! I hope you show us how they turn out.</p>
<p>I recommend using the crumpled paper and masking tape for armatures, instead of chicken wire. It takes a lot of effort to get the wire in the shape you want, but shaping the paper is easy. To make sure your paper mache people will stand up, you might want to tape their feet to a cardboard base, at least until the first layer of paper mache is dry. You might also want to consider using the Super Sculpey to form the features of the face, then add a layer of paper and paste, and dry the face under a hot lamp. (Not too close &#8211; you don&#8217;t want to burn down your house!) This will cook the Sculpey so you won&#8217;t have to remove it. You would need to make the features exaggerated so the details don&#8217;t get lost when the paper is added and the paint applied.</p>
<p>Be sure to let us know how your project turns out!</p>
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