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	<description>Animal Sculptures and Advanced Paper Mache Projects.</description>
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		<title>By: John Tate</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested in the staying power of papier-mache in this article.  http://www.arm.ac.uk/history/moore/Part03.html
It wasn&#039;t perfect but the dome did manage to survive the Irish weather for a number of years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested in the staying power of papier-mache in this article.  <a href="http://www.arm.ac.uk/history/moore/Part03.html">http://www.arm.ac.uk/history/moore/Part03.html</a><br />
It wasn&#8217;t perfect but the dome did manage to survive the Irish weather for a number of years!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
		<link>http://ultimatepapermache.com/cheap-art/waterproofing-papier-mache/comment-page-1#comment-11209</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jonni!  I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions!

Jeanette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jonni!  I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions!</p>
<p>Jeanette</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - sorry I forgot the glue part. Some people use glue as a final finish, although I&#039;ve never done that. If you use a diluted carpenter&#039;s glue instead of flour paste, your paper mache will be somewhat waterproof. But the paper will still get damp, so I would suggest you use a final protective finish of Verathane - which also comes as a water-based product that you brush on. With a project the size of yours, the brush-on product is probably much less expensive.

You could probably get away with using a flour and water paste instead of diluted glue, as long as you let it dry really well and then cover it with several coats of polyurethane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; sorry I forgot the glue part. Some people use glue as a final finish, although I&#8217;ve never done that. If you use a diluted carpenter&#8217;s glue instead of flour paste, your paper mache will be somewhat waterproof. But the paper will still get damp, so I would suggest you use a final protective finish of Verathane &#8211; which also comes as a water-based product that you brush on. With a project the size of yours, the brush-on product is probably much less expensive.</p>
<p>You could probably get away with using a flour and water paste instead of diluted glue, as long as you let it dry really well and then cover it with several coats of polyurethane.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jonni,

Thanks for your response. However, due to me being so inexperienced, I am still unclear and need some clarification.  Do you suggest I use the carpenters glue with the newspaper as my first layers, then coat it at the end with the Verathane or Miniwax?  I see the Verathane is a spray (had to look it up!).  And do I dilute the carpenters glue for those first layers?  I am such a novice I really need a clear idea of the recommended process.

I&#039;d love to share photos of the float when its done!

Thanks again!

Jeanette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jonni,</p>
<p>Thanks for your response. However, due to me being so inexperienced, I am still unclear and need some clarification.  Do you suggest I use the carpenters glue with the newspaper as my first layers, then coat it at the end with the Verathane or Miniwax?  I see the Verathane is a spray (had to look it up!).  And do I dilute the carpenters glue for those first layers?  I am such a novice I really need a clear idea of the recommended process.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to share photos of the float when its done!</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Jeanette</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeanette,

If your float is only going to be outside during the parade, and will be stored inside for most of the year, I think you could just use some water-based Verathane or Minwax for the final coat. It&#039;s a lot easier to work with than either diluted glue or the oil-based marine varnish. You would want to give it several coats to make sure you don&#039;t miss a spot. 

I hope you&#039;ll let us see the float when it&#039;s done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeanette,</p>
<p>If your float is only going to be outside during the parade, and will be stored inside for most of the year, I think you could just use some water-based Verathane or Minwax for the final coat. It&#8217;s a lot easier to work with than either diluted glue or the oil-based marine varnish. You would want to give it several coats to make sure you don&#8217;t miss a spot. </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll let us see the float when it&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am a total novice to paper mache, only having trying it once for a &quot;Pharaoh&#039;s Mask&quot; project I did with my daughter and using a glue mixed with water technique.  I found your link by doing a search regarding waterproofing paper mache.  I lead a group where we create a float each year for a holiday parade for our dance company (for Nutcracker).  This year we are constructing a building that we are topping with an onion dome.  The dome itself has its ribs created by cove stick, and wrapped in chicken wire.  Now we want to paper mache over it and paint it metallic gold.  However, being the parade could include inclement weather, I want to make sure the dome is waterproof and that the paint won&#039;t sludge off in the rain.  Finally my question.  I see you recommend using carpenter&#039;s glue.  Should the carpenter&#039;s glue be mixed with water with a 4:1 ratio like using regular glue or some other combination?  Also, since the project won&#039;t be outside long term, do you think we could pass on the yacht varnish?  We plan to save the project because we will rotate it back in for use in several years so we do want longevity, but it will be stored inside.

Any advice or perspective you can provide is most appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am a total novice to paper mache, only having trying it once for a &#8220;Pharaoh&#8217;s Mask&#8221; project I did with my daughter and using a glue mixed with water technique.  I found your link by doing a search regarding waterproofing paper mache.  I lead a group where we create a float each year for a holiday parade for our dance company (for Nutcracker).  This year we are constructing a building that we are topping with an onion dome.  The dome itself has its ribs created by cove stick, and wrapped in chicken wire.  Now we want to paper mache over it and paint it metallic gold.  However, being the parade could include inclement weather, I want to make sure the dome is waterproof and that the paint won&#8217;t sludge off in the rain.  Finally my question.  I see you recommend using carpenter&#8217;s glue.  Should the carpenter&#8217;s glue be mixed with water with a 4:1 ratio like using regular glue or some other combination?  Also, since the project won&#8217;t be outside long term, do you think we could pass on the yacht varnish?  We plan to save the project because we will rotate it back in for use in several years so we do want longevity, but it will be stored inside.</p>
<p>Any advice or perspective you can provide is most appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modg Podge has a product that is an outdoor finisher. But your have to keep re-applying every year I think to keep it water proof.

I like your idea better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modg Podge has a product that is an outdoor finisher. But your have to keep re-applying every year I think to keep it water proof.</p>
<p>I like your idea better</p>
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		<title>By: Chantal Laniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chantal Laniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonjour,

Je suis contente de vous avoir retrouvée, je suis dans la région de Montréal aussi. Je vous laisse mon addresse e-mail. 
Que de souvenir agréable me sont remonté dans mon coeur,
Chantalxxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjour,</p>
<p>Je suis contente de vous avoir retrouvée, je suis dans la région de Montréal aussi. Je vous laisse mon addresse e-mail.<br />
Que de souvenir agréable me sont remonté dans mon coeur,<br />
Chantalxxx</p>
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		<title>By: lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO  AM SURPRISED NO ONE HAS USED MOD PODGE TO WATER PROOF  I MADE A FOUR FOOT GERMAN SHEPHERD  I PUT MOD PODGE IN MY  FLOUR AND WATER WITH CARPENTER GLUE  ALSO PUT MOD PODGE IN MY PAINT  THEN  MOD PODGE  THE WHOLE DOG THREE TIMES   I HAVE FOUR WIZARD OF OZ  LIFE SIZE  THAT HAVE BEEN IN FAIRS  BUT MY  DOG NEVER DID DRY  AND DID NOT MILDEW  AND HELD UP SIX YEARS SO FAR  AND IS HARD AS A ROCK  ALSO I BUY LARGE A GALLON OF CARPENTER GLUE  ONE PART GLUE TWO PART WATER  MUCH BETTER THEN FLOUR  GOOD LUCK  LORRAINE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO  AM SURPRISED NO ONE HAS USED MOD PODGE TO WATER PROOF  I MADE A FOUR FOOT GERMAN SHEPHERD  I PUT MOD PODGE IN MY  FLOUR AND WATER WITH CARPENTER GLUE  ALSO PUT MOD PODGE IN MY PAINT  THEN  MOD PODGE  THE WHOLE DOG THREE TIMES   I HAVE FOUR WIZARD OF OZ  LIFE SIZE  THAT HAVE BEEN IN FAIRS  BUT MY  DOG NEVER DID DRY  AND DID NOT MILDEW  AND HELD UP SIX YEARS SO FAR  AND IS HARD AS A ROCK  ALSO I BUY LARGE A GALLON OF CARPENTER GLUE  ONE PART GLUE TWO PART WATER  MUCH BETTER THEN FLOUR  GOOD LUCK  LORRAINE</p>
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		<title>By: Jonni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you can use a paste made from flour and water. I mentioned the carpenter&#039;s glue because it won&#039;t attract mold, but it would probably not help waterproof a sculpture. The final finish would have to do that. I have never been brave enough to put paper mache outdoors, so if that&#039;s what you intend to do, you should follow the link to the original experiments that are mentioned in this post. The lady who did the experiments should be able to answer questions about waterproofing paper mache much better than I can. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you can use a paste made from flour and water. I mentioned the carpenter&#8217;s glue because it won&#8217;t attract mold, but it would probably not help waterproof a sculpture. The final finish would have to do that. I have never been brave enough to put paper mache outdoors, so if that&#8217;s what you intend to do, you should follow the link to the original experiments that are mentioned in this post. The lady who did the experiments should be able to answer questions about waterproofing paper mache much better than I can. Good luck.</p>
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